Re: "Sober U"

From: Ken Schneck (kschneck@SARAHLAWRENCE.EDU)
Date: 11/06/03


Hey there Beth,

I tried to give you a call the other day, but I think your voicemail said you were out (this is one of those weeks where the days are blending together in a judicial blur...).

I wanted to give you an update on one of the issues that a member of the proposed KC raised so that you're aware...

Apparently ACPA (which I admittedly have VERY limited involvement with) has a bylaw that states that members who are not employed by a college or university cannot serve on leadership teams for whatever their Knowledge Community equivalents are. I have been told that the reasons for this (as they would apply to NASPA) are:
1) So the entity does not become so closely coupled with a particular agency/consultant that it become synamous with the KC.
2) Since it is an organization based on students, it is important that leaders work directly with student in a campus setting.
3) If the consultant or agency becomes caught up in any controversary ($, ethics, personnel issues etc...) it will not reflect back on the KC or NASPA.
4) It may present a conflict of interest to have a consultant or agency in a position to make decisions that might limit or increase income to their organization.
5) Each consultant or agency has a specific guiding philosophy that could be self-imposed on the organization.

I would be remiss if I did not highlight that when this issue was raised, the beginning of the e-mail, the end, and various parts in the middle stressed that the potential objection has zero to do with you (the word "exemplary" was used more than once to describe you!) and more to do with the avoidance of any possible ethical conflicts.

I then posed the question to Bette Simmons, who informed me that NASPA has no such bylaws, and only requires that its Leadership Team members be dues-paying members of NASPA.

In, of course, a desire towards full disclosure, I wanted to relay this all back to you and get your feedback.

Hope everything is going well up in MA...

-Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth DeRicco [mailto:bdericco@EDC.ORG]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:43 AM
To: DRUGHIED@listserv.tamu.edu
Subject: Re: "Sober U"

Hi, all-

FYI, there is a group at Education Development Center in Newton, MA (the
home of the Higher Education Center) that is doing an NIAAA funded study of
social norms marketing with a true experimental design- you know, control
groups and experimental groups. This study is designed to identify if
there is a pure effect related to change in high-risk alcohol use due to
social norms campaigns.

Papers from the preliminary findings of study should be coming out shortly.

Beth DeRicco, Ph.D., CPP-R
Associate Director for IHE Services
The US Department of Education's Higher Education Center for Alcohol and
Other Drug Prevention
55 Chapel Street
Newton MA 02458-1060
800-676-1730 ext. 2602
617-928-1537 (FAX)

http://www.edc.org/hec/
http://www2.edc.org/HHD/

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Robert,

I'm not familiar enough with the various funding streams to offer
anything in the way of constructive advice for funding a college
recovery house, but I think it's a great idea. A personal friend of mine
got sober while living in a frat house, so anything's possible but I'm
sure he would have been more comfortable in early sobriety in the
company of kindred spirits.

I think you've got a great crucible for trying out such a project in
Philly. Coincidentally, I got sober about 11 years ago in Philadelphia
at a great half-way house program on Powelton Ave.- right in the heart
of "University City" (actually "Powelton Village"). Something in that
area would give good proximity to Drexel and Penn students and would
easily be reached via the El for others. Actually, if it were set up
with plenty of broadband internet connections and had good access to
public transportation you could establish such a residence almost
anywhere in the city. Sounds like an awesome project- I hope you are
able to keep that idea alive.

Good essay on the state of the social norms controversy. I keep coming
back to the lack of hard empirical evidence for its effectiveness as
being more a problem of program evaluation. That is, that it's a lack of
being able to identify a pure effect (in a complicated mix of prevention
efforts and environmental initiatives) than that social norms
correction/marketing is a flawed idea.

take care,
John Steiner
UNM COSAP

>>> chapman@LASALLE.EDU 11/04/03 12:07PM >>>
I am interested in exploring the possibility of establishing a
residence in
the greater Philadelphia area that would be exclusively for college
and
university students in recovery. This idea, admittedly in its infancy,
consists of establishing a residential facility, staffed by competent
and
trained professionals and graduate interns in counseling with an
interest
in substance use disorders, where matriculated college and university
students in the greater Philadelphia area could reside while attending
classes.

I have seen too many students relapse when returning to college after
rehab
or entering college having completed rehab in high school. Many
schools
may be too small or lack the staff to adequately pursue a
comprehensive
"halfway house" type program for its matriculated students, but a
program
open to "any" matriculated college student meeting its requirements,
e.g.,
number of registered hours, length of sobriety, commitment to recovery
as
evidenced by involvement in aftercare and.or self-help, etc., is likely
to
be a different story in a metropolitan area like Philly.

Although I am interested in any reactions to this idea this post may
generate, I am particularly interested in identifying a potential
funding
source to which a call could be made to explore its interest in
entertaining a formal proposal. I will appreciate your comments and you
can
direct them to me personally via the contact information below.

Best regards,

Robert

Robert J. Chapman, PhD
Coordinator, AOD Program
Associate Faculty, Clinical/Counseling Psychology
La Salle University
1900 W. Olney Ave.
Philadelphia, PA 19141-1199
Phone: 215-951-1357 Fax: 215-951-1451

mailto:chapman@lasalle.edu
home page http://www.robertchapman.net

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